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Thursday, August 11, 2011

Re: [DucatiST] Re: Brake question AKA why did this (seem) to work?

 

Dyslexia's a bitch.  Glad I'm not the only one where spell check doesn't catch everything.
 
Cheers,
 
W
Hmmm... The spell checker doesn't catch everything does it?  That should be "As a brake specialist I concur with Nick's assessment."  And I'm sorry Walt, I don't bake either. He he.:-)  Gary '01 ST4 Gaston, OR 




-----Original Message-----
From: Gary L. Smith <lgranch@laughing-gargoyle.com>
To: st2_owners <st2_owners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Brake question AKA why did this (seem) to work?

Hmmm... The spell checker doesn't catch everything does it?  That should be "As a brake specialist I concur with Nick's assessment."  And I'm sorry Walt, I don't bake either. He he.:-)  Gary '01 ST4 Gaston, OR  On 8/10/2011 11:48 AM, Walt wrote: > > I'm no bake specialist but I agree, and I do it the old fashioned way  > using the pump-release, do again filling from the reservoir method. I  > bought one of those pumps to try and make it easier but never really  > got it working right, my inner Luddite coming out I guess. > Anyway, with all my bikes filling the garage I replace the fluid twice  > a year and it still takes less than a half hour per bike. And the only  > reason I do it so frequently is I prefer to have clear fluid in the  > reservoirs and it gives me a chance to go over the bike checking  > things out. Piece of mind in other words. > If it's still spongy after bleeding you are letting air into the  > system or there is water you aren't getting out, might have a leak  > also somewhere. > JMHO, > W > 1994 Ducati 888SPOLTD > 1995 Ducati 900SP (track bike) > 2000 Cagiva Gran Canyon > 2004 BMW R1150RT > 1999 Victory V92c > >     As a brake specialist is concur with Nick's assessment. Tricks don't >     work only good solid physics. Bleed your brakes properly and you will >     have no problems. Except of course when the fluid boils which is a >     subject for a whole other discussion. > >     Gary '01 ST4 Gaston, OR > >     On 8/9/2011 11:18 PM, Nick Woods wrote: >     > >     > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary L. Smith <lgranch@laughing-gargoyle.com> > To: st2_owners <st2_owners@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 2:39 pm > Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Brake question AKA why did this (seem) to  > work? > > As a brake specialist is concur with Nick's assessment. Tricks don't > work only good solid physics. Bleed your brakes properly and you will > have no problems. Except of course when the fluid boils which is a > subject for a whole other discussion. > > Gary '01 ST4 Gaston, OR > > On 8/9/2011 11:18 PM, Nick Woods wrote: > > > > > > > >  --- Inst2_owners@yahoogroups.com  <mailto:st2_owners@yahoogroups.com> > >  <mailto:st2_owners%40yahoogroups.com  <mailto:st2_owners%40yahoogroups.com?>>,  Will Fulford > >  <williford112000@...>  wrote: > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  >  It should hold up for you Huss. There was still a tiny bit of air in > >  your system and the pressure you held on it overnight either allowed > >  the bubble to release into the reservoir or dissipate into the fluid > >  more evenly which is why it feels firm now. > > > >  Sorry Will, I don't buy that! There is no way that air mysteriously > >  finds it's way back into the reservoir, since all exits are barred > >  when you do this trick. The only possible answer is that the > >  compressible air actually dissolves into the fluid under sustained > >  pressure, just like nitrogen does into the blood during deep diving. > >  So, at least to start with, there is no more compressible air in the > >  system, so the brake feels firm. However, just as in the bends in > >  divers, releasing the pressure can allow the air to come back out of > >  solution and make it's presence known again. I'm pretty sure that Good > >  ol' Fariborz commented that riding at highish altitude had his brakes > >  go soft again, which confirms this hypothesis. > > > >  So, the trick works, but not in the way that 99.9% of bikers think it > >  does, and it isn't a substitute for proper bleeding! > > > >  NickW, UK > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the list please send an email to:st2_owners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo   <mailto:st2_owners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo>! > Groups Links > > > >     ------------------------------------  To unsubscribe from the list please send an email to: st2_owners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo!  Groups Links  <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/  <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional  <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/join     (Yahoo! ID required)  <*> To change settings via email:     st2_owners-digest@yahoogroups.com      st2_owners-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com  <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     st2_owners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com  <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/  

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