Robert I'm sooo annoyed with you:-)
Ahem, that's not why I'm replying to my own post.
I'd just like to add an update and be a little less scathing.
After I wrote this, I checked my tyre pressures. They were 2.0/2.1 bar
(F/R) rather than the recommended 2.1/2.2 for solo, unladen use. I was
surprised to find that putting an extra 5% (0.1 bar) in each made quite
a difference. Admittedly I haven't ridden in rain since then, but the
wobbles induced by the rear tyre were nearly tamed. Only today have
I noticed anything disturbing, as I traversed some strange undulations
on the Diss* road out of Bury St. Edmunds. Of course the warm weather
and lack of rain has probably helped avoid that strange feeling that
somebody/something else is trying to steer the bike. Anyway, I don't
feel so bad about the Angel STs now, but I'm glad I ordered Diablo Corsas
as replacements.
*so close the the name of the Roman god of the underworld: Dis aka Pluto
I was interested in Mike Vaughan's comments on the Avon Storm2s.
It sounds as if they have a stickier compound on the front tyre. I'm used
to tyres from Bridgestone and Pirelli that last far longer on the front.
I do a lot of miles, but I think that a stickier, faster wearing, front
could be a good idea. Nick Woods spoke of Storm 2 Ultras -is that the
same tyre or a variation?
--
Jan
On the road:'03 ST4s ABS (since April 2010), '99 M900 (since new)
Languishing: 'Guzzi V50 III & that legend of unreliability: a Lario!
Oh, and I'll 'fess up to buying a (Polish!) car for this winter.
(Well, ok it was designed in Italy, so that must be ok:)
Norwich, UK
Jan Wysocki, on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:25:55AM +0100 you wrote:
>
> Thread revival! Robert, please feel free to ignore this:)
> Well a year has gone by, since the post below.
> I've ridden a total of 24398 miles on the ST, 14397 since 20 Sep 2010.
> Both tyres were new Pirelli Diablo Stradas, fitted by Carl Harrison,
> when I bought the bike.
> So I did 7,442 miles on the first rear tyre: Pirelli Diablo Strada
> It wasn't steering too well and you could see some delamination,
> but the surface wasn't level with the wear bars.
> I did 13,134 miles on the first front tyre: Diablo Strada
> It was still legal and felt ok, but it was the end of October and it
> seemed prudent to replace it for the winter.
> I did 10,711 miles on the next rear tyre: again a Diablo Strada!
> It was still riding remarkably well, but there was carcass showing for
> the last 100 miles!
> I was eating into the wear bars too.
> I've now ridden c. 6,214* miles on a rear Angel ST
> and c. 11,233 miles on the front Angel ST. Frankly, the steering is now
> horrible, even though there's a fair amount of rubber left on both
> tyres.
> The rear tyre is steering the bike when it hits minor imperfections and
> it's scary over uneven wet road. The front tyre has also developed
> a mind of its own at low speed. As I start to turn, I feel the bars
> tugging in the direction of the turn and I have to pull them back to
> stop
> the bike following a helical path! At least this doesn't happen over
> about 15 mph, but the bike does require a firmer grip than I'd like at
> high speed (>80mph). Obviously I shall be swapping the tyres as soon
> as possible, you can guess what I'm going to fit!
> So this is a (belated) thumbs down for Angel STs.
> I've had good results with Bridgestone ST02Xs on my Monster, but rather
> than
> try them on the ST, I'll stick with Carl Harrison's recommendation.
> srnelson_st2, on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:23:26PM +0100 you wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [1]st2_owners@yahoogroups.com, Jan Wysocki <st@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Colin is the only person I've noticed in this thread to mention
> the
> > > > Pirelli Diablo Stradas. I'm running them on my ST. I've not had
> any
> > > > other tyres on it to compare them with. The Diablo Stradas have
> worn
> > > > well - 7,442 miles on the rear before I changed it and 9470 miles
> on
> > > > the front so far. The rear was still legal when I changed it. I'd
> =20=
> >
> > > guess
> > > > that I could have run it for another 500 miles , but it was
> starting
> > > > to steer from the rear over irregularities on the road even
> though =20=
> >
> > > it
> > > > didn't look particularly "squared". However, the Angels sound
> like a
> > > > worthwhile upgrade.
> > >
> > > I went through a couple of Diablo Stradas on the rear of my ST2
> then =20=
> >
> > > switched to an Angel ST and they feel pretty much the same to me. I
> =20=
> >
> > > think it was a bigger difference switching from a 170 to a 180 (I
> =20
> > > couldn't get a 170 at the time) than any tire differences.
> > >
> > > I was planning to stick with the Angel ST except that I no long own
> =20=
> >
> > > any bikes that it fits on. (I've gone over to large dual sports for
> =20=
> >
> > > a while.)
> > >
> > > __Scott R. Nelson, Pleasanton, CA
> > >
> [rest snipped to please Nick W:-]
>
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:st2_owners%40yahoogroups.com
> 2. mailto:st@tarasowka.org?subject=Re%3A%20Dreaded%20Tyre%2Ftire%20thread
> 3. mailto:st2_owners@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Dreaded%20Tyre%2Ftire%20thread
> 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYTBpNWxhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwOTkxMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI2MjY0BG1zZ0lkAzExODQ1OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzMTY4MjAzNjM-?act=reply&messageNum=118458
> 5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbGxhbzY5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwOTkxMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI2MjY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTMxNjgyMDM2Mw--
> 6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/message/114783;_ylc=X3oDMTM4MmxzcWh2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwOTkxMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI2MjY0BG1zZ0lkAzExODQ1OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzMTY4MjAzNjMEdHBjSWQDMTE0Nzgz
> 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZGVvMzlnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwOTkxMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI2MjY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEzMTY4MjAzNjM-?o=6
> 8. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st2_owners;_ylc=X3oDMTJlc2d0cHMwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwOTkxMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI2MjY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTMxNjgyMDM2Mw--
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Jan
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