Can't argue the logic about getting into the bike! I have the '03 ST4s and put the DesmoTimes rails on it and it does improve things abit, but it is still a PITA to get into. I also used Dzus fittings every place I could to make stripping the bike easier. On the 900SS/CR and on the ST4s, I have one of the Chase Harper roll bags tied to the grab rails so I can carry small items which helps a lot but I still like the underseat area for keeping things a bit more secure when I'm stopped some where. The '01 Superbike has nothing to hang a bag on so the small underseat area is critical. I have several different sized tank bags I use on it so I can carry a book to read when I go out to eat. I can carry the small tank bag inside the helmet yet it can carry my cell phone, glasses and a paperback. When I was putting the rails on, I was kinda looking at the bike from the SS/CR approach and it wouldn't look too bad. Figured I put in some of the Samco bright colored hoses as an eye catcher. Let us know what you do on the modifications on the bike! Hopper
--- On Wed, 3/21/12, Brad DeVries <triangleforge@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Brad DeVries <triangleforge@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Replaced Yuasa with Shorai LFX18L1-BS12
To: "st2_owners@yahoogroups.com" <st2_owners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 11:44 AM
Hopper Wrote:
What I'm curious about is why eat up easy access carry-all space in the back of the bike when there is already a place to keep a battery that is close to all the elctrical connections you need. If you put the battery in the place where it is normally carried, you don't have to put in extra cables, connections etc.
It comes down to my total, abject - and admittedly, increasingly irrational - hatred of the design of the ST2's fairings. To me, including the word "Touring" in the same sentence as a bike that forces you (in stock trim) to take half an hour to get a multi-tester on the battery on one side or another half hour to get at the spark plugs on the other borders on criminal fraud. And don't get me started on the location of the fuse box... I've got the Desmo Times fairing rails, but while they're an improvement, it's still such a staggering pain in the butt to deal with that mine has gone semi-naked for the past year, with the fairing panels hanging from the garage rafters gathering dust.
The plan for spring/summer is to construct a pair of cafe-esque half-fairings that cover up the relays, etc. on the left and the coolant tank and relocated starter solenoid on the right and relocating some of the other visually unpleasant bits- kind of a 900SS CR look, both for ease of access to mechanical parts (particularly at the side of the road in a rainstorm) and because I think Ducati motors & trellis frames are sexier than any fairing could ever be. Maybe that's because my first Duc was a Monster.
YMMV
BRAD
From: HOPPER ELDRIDGE <hoppereldridge@sbcglobal.net>
To: st2_owners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Replaced Yuasa with Shorai LFX18L1-BS12
| Hi Brad, I like the size comparison of the Shorai battery to the carry box in the back of the bike. You don't realize how small they are until you see a comparison! What I'm curious about is why eat up easy access carry-all space in the back of the bike when there is already a place to keep a battery that is close to all the elctrical connections you need. If you put the battery in the place where it is normally carried, you don't have to put in extra cables, connections etc. The Shorai batteries are supposed to be very good with minimal maintenance, even less than the "No/lo" maintenance AGM batteries. Just run a "polarized" connector to the battery and route it so that you can get to it to hook up the battery maintainer/charger without popping the fairing. I have these connectors on my "positive earthed" Norton Commando, Triumph Bonnieville (and Trident as soon as I get the carbs cleaned), and my '96 900SS/CR, my '01 996 Superbike and my '03 ST4s, (and the riding lawnmower!)...easy to get to and still have room for glasses, book checkbook or what ever on the Ducs. I'm using Battery Tenders for the maintaining chores. Guess I have about half a dozen in the garage and the tool shed. Very little problems...except finding time to ride all the bikes when I'm in from the rig (thus the carb problem on the Trident and the 900SS/CR...they're nearer to the front of the garage). Cheers...Hopper
--- On Tue, 3/20/12, Brad DeVries <triangleforge@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Brad DeVries <triangleforge@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Replaced Yuasa with Shorai LFX18L1-BS12
To: "st2_owners@yahoogroups.com" <st2_owners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
I removed the helmet "lock" hooks (If I recall correctly, the bracket to which they're attached is somewhat structural, so I cut the hook parts off) and the Shorai BS12 is a near perfect fit. I put a piece of the stick-on closed cell foam that comes with the battery underneath it, cut a couple of slots for the bicycle pedal toe clip strap (a classic Lapize strap that I've long been unwilling to toss even though all five bicycles are clipless). I'll take some photos of the re-routed and significantly upsized wiring as well.
As for the cold-weather performance of these batteries, I've been quite happy with the cranking & starting of this set up all the way down to any temperature at which I'd consider riding the Duc -- low to mid-thirties Fahrenheit . The bike lives in an unheated garage, so when I roll it out in those kind of temps, the battery and everything else would be in the twenties when I thumb the starter. All fine so far.
BRAD
From: Michael Heth <mheth@motolectric.com>
To: st2_owners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [DucatiST] Re: Replaced Yuasa with Shorai LFX18L1-BS12 [2 Attachments]
On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Marty Nelson wrote:
> Actually, I think that is a pretty good idea.
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> On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Jack wrote:
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>> Everyone says the assorted Lithium-Ion batteries are tiny, so why not set it up with some big banana plugs and find a place under the seat for it? You could just pull it out and take it inside with you, during cold weather.
I've just engineered that type of kit for the Sport Classic bikes as locating the battery under the seat is a popular mod.
They remove the battery box to get a more open look.
Because the starter can pull a high level of current if anything impedes its motion (worn bushings, flaky sprag, intermediate gear binding on its shaft) you have to be careful when you use a plug/socket system.
The new quick release kit can flow 120 amps continuously. At first glance that can seem like overkill since the starter only pulls 52-56 amps.
But as shown in the photo below the current draw can go through the roof if things are not 100% happy.
That rider had a sprag that was disintegrating and was dragging (although still working somewhat).
Kit below is the quick release version for the SC bikes $180, fixed circuit (no quick release) is $150.
You have to engineer in jumpers to the main loom and good ways to seal off the OEM connectors as the battery will no longer be holding them in place etc.
I'm open to developing a kit for the ST bikes if there is sufficient interest.
HTH
Thanks, M./ Michael Heth mheth@motolectric.com(415) 992-7840
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