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Friday, September 3, 2010

Re: [DucatiST] Intermittent no start fault.

 

If this was a carburettor engine, then I'd immediately suggest 'vapour lock"
(i.e. the fuel had boiled out of the carburettor float chambers).
However, that can't happen with injectors. Nonetheless it does sound
like a fuel/air problem and I see that your engineer found a leak.
Could there stil be a leak? An air leak will be worse when the engine
is hot, due to expansion. Although a lot of work has been done, I'd
wonder whether a compression test has been done on both cylinders when
hot and when were the valve clearances last checked?

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Jan
On the road:'03 ST4s ABS (since April), '99 M900 (since new)
Languishing: 2 'Guzzis & a flying brick
Norwich, UK

William Dagworthy, on Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:55:32AM -0000 you wrote:
>
> Ducati ST4S 2002 30,000miles
>
>
> Bike has an intermittent none fire fault when trying to start after a
> run that is engine will turn over but not fire, this was accompanied at
> times with reluctant to fire up but would start after a few attempts.
>
>
> The non start fault has happened on 5 occasions after a run. Try to
> start the bike engine almost catches but then just turns over with out
> firing. (I do remove the key.)
>
>
> Things tried so far
>
> Disconnected and cleaned all connectors on the loom with contact
> cleaner. Provided the ECU with a dedicated earth connection to the
> battery, fitted heavier 16mm starter motor leads and a new additional
> 16mm earth to the engine. The starter solenoid shows nil resistance
> across the starter contacts when engaged. Checked and confirmed engine
> sensor gap of 0.7mm. Fitted new battery and plugs.
>
>
> Bike was taken to Riders for a full diagnostic
>
> They found one inlet manifold joint leaking the inlet gaskets were
> replaced tests were completed and bike set up.
>
> The test revealed an anomaly in the ECU.
>
> They found a reading of 14v that's with engine not running on the
> Red/Blue wire, Pin No: B4 on the Grey connector on the ECU.
>
> They reported that all other parameters appear normal and they could
> not see what effect this might have if any as the bike was running
> nicely.
>
>
> Rode the bike home and yes it ran better than it ever had. Got home
> after a ride of 110 miles. Switched off engine whilst opening garage
> doors tried to restart engine nearly fired but the just cranked. Left
> for 2-3 hr retried and bike fired up with no problems.
>
>
> ECU has been sent to specialist and tested with no faults reported and
> no sign of the 14v reading.
>
>
> ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS PLEASE.
>
>
> Bill.
>
>
> References
>
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Jan

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